If you've been paying attention the last couple of years, the Mongols have been on a sort of federal probation and that's the club as a whole. Testimony resumed for a hearing in which a judge will decided if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. A jury sided with the prosecution in 2019 and ordered the group to give up the emblem, but Judge David O. Carter rejected the verdict as an infringement on the clubs constitutional rights. So, she sent the recording along with a text message to two other members of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. The U.S. Attorney's office asked him whether he is - or ever was - any sort of informant for the ATF or for any state or federal agency. However, Annie testified this week, saying she only did it to get back at her husband for cheating. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. Prez Lil Dave Ep 936 Hells Angels A violent price to pay **FULL AUDIO** Cavazos was raised by his father in Highland Park, Los Angeles, California and joined the Avenues, a Mexican American street gang, at an early age before . Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. SANTA ANA, Calif. (KABC) -- Testimony resumed inside an Orange County federal courthouse on Wednesday morning for a hearing in which a judge will decide if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. Testimony will reconvene on Friday, July 22, at 7:30 a.m. LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. He's accused of being a confidential informant and working with the government during the Mongols' trial after his wife,. agent, but they failed to persuade a judge to grant a new trial on the racketeering and conspiracy convictions against the club. Mongols MC President Lil Dave THE REAL AMERICAN CHOLO. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president was a confidential informant for the ATF. You can now listen to full episodes of the podcast right from the app. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. Marshal that Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone had been seen chatting at a Starbucks near the courthouse. The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. The club supported all kinds of law enforcement functions, (This is a known fact) and the club didnt throw on a diamond until around 2017. Three years after the 2018 case, the Mongols lawyers came forward last year with claims that the groups former president, David Santillan, had been surreptitiously cooperating with a special agent from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives for years and had sabotaged the defense. Santillan says he and Ciccone had a "rapport" after 25 years of dealing with one another. Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. Lil Dave, the president of the Mongols motorcycle club, was caught cheating on his wife s o she decided to revenge his ass by putting this video on Youtube which shows him supposedly. 02:34 LIL Dave is all over the main stream, 04:10 Why did lil dave not want ciccone on the stand, 06:45 Our invitation for Ciccone to come on the show, 15:14 Mongol Lawyer thinks LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. Anyone can read what you share. After testifying briefly in court Monday, Annie told Eyewitness News that her husband has never been a confidential informant and that she only sent the text message because she wanted to destroy him in the eyes of the Mongols. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF.The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case John Ciccone.Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. 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On Thursday last week, The Suit was downtown at a pre-trial hearing in the case of David Martinez, accused of killing Pomona Police Officer Shaun Diamond in November. In other words, she wrote, he is a rat.. His Club recruited many of their chapters over the internet, another known fact (We had their National Vice President who served for 10 years case on this channel where it was admitted that they supported law enforcement and threw on a diamond.WATCH THE VIDEO AT END OF ARTICLEL) Most would compare this to an Iron Order type of set up. The original case attracted widespread attention because of the federal governments unusual attempt to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword and thus relinquish a big source of the organizations mystique. Both Mr. Ciccone and the U.S. Attorneys Office declined to comment on the motion beyond the government response filed in court, which said the petition for a new trial was replete with false and unsupported allegations and speculation.. Mr. Santillan provided records from the cases to show he had been convicted of offenses including driving under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident and disturbing the peace, and that he had been arrested, fined and put on probation. Yanny played a clip from a National Geographic show segment on the Mongols in court as evidence of their relationship. Nor do I believe that there would be, quite frankly, an acquittal in a second trial., Mr. Santillan, who led the Mongols for nearly 13 years until he was voted out of the club in July of last year, vehemently denied that he had ever betrayed the group. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. 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That quest to seize the Mongols patch was part of a criminal case brought by the U.S. Attorneys Office in 2013 under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. On Thursday, after hearing testimony from more than a dozen witnesses, including from Mr. Santillan himself, over the past several months, Judge David O. Carter of the Federal District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., found that there was no convincing evidence of such a claim and refused to set aside racketeering and conspiracy convictions as well as a penalty of $500,000. And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. The big Mongol was the first to learn how much Jesse loved to fight, as the gear cut open a savage gash in the big man's face, eyebrow to chin. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. Thats what I meant by protect in the video.. #MONGOLSMC #MONGOLS #LILDAVEFor more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had. New features, smoother menu and backgrounds- PLUS!! In other words, Ms. Santillan wrote in the text, he is a rat. In the video, played several times during the hearings, Ms. Santillan is talking to her husband on speakerphone when he informs her that Mr. Ciccone will be retiring. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. "He goes, I know you've been doing a bang-up job at the club, can't protect you from this point forward," Santillan recounted of their conversation. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. There is no way hes gotten away with these incidents without more significant legal repercussions unless someone in law enforcement is in the background greasing the slides for him, Mr. Yanny said. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. #MONGOLSMC #LILDAVE #MONGOLSMOTORCYCLECLUBIs Lil Dave from the Mongols innocent?Full Interview American Cholo https://youtu.be/PzmaL8MliAI#LILDAVE#MONGOLSMC#. "The relationship was just cordial, respectful relationship just to keep the peace between us and the club," Santillan said. Testimony will help determine if Mongols get new trial. After this mistake I realized I went against everything i believed in regarding both sides of the story and said enough of this drama bullshit . ", RELATED: Mongols Motorcycle Club vows to fight trademark loss. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. The president of the notorious Mongols motorcycle club promised he'd put his infidelities behind him, get sober and be a better father to their children. The U.S. Attorneys Office has failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their trademarked logo. agent. Available on GOOGLE PLAY CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD FROM GOOGLE PLAY STORE. "I want Ciccone here under oath," Judge Carter told the prosecution team. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. Episode Website. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. Ciccone told him he was retiring. In another instance, in 2014, Mr. Santillan and his wife got into a brawl with other people at a racetrack, the Mongols filing says. Annie Santillan says she surreptitiously recorded the call because David's mistress had been harassing her. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. But then he began to talk about now-retired ATF agent John Ciccone, the lead agent on the racketeering case. Mongols National president lil Dave SNITCHES on own club, says "I have 1 year to plan exit strategy" @bimmerracer2010 Subscribe 774 Dislike 375 Share Would You Fly To Paris For A Baguette?. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. I've heard rumours he's also not actually mongolian. "Because I needed evidence to show the military that they had someone having an affair with a married man.". David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. The lawyer in charge of the retrial motion, Joseph A. Yanny, said the Mongols hoped to prove that an improper relationship between Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone during the 2018 trial allowed the government to hear things it should not have about the Mongols defense strategy and even adversely influenced the Mongols presentation of their case. As for Mr. Ciccone, he had mastered the craft of executing complex investigations using everything from undercovers to informants to wiretaps to subpoenas and surveillance, said Frank DAlesio, a retired A.T.F. In 2018, the club was convicted of. A jury ordered the forfeiture, but Judge Carter reversed the order, concluding that it infringed on the groups constitutional rights. Judge Rejects Claim That Mongols Biker Club Leader Was a Rat, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/07/us/mongols-informant.html. Now its at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. He said their communication was for public safety and showed the Mongols that there is ATF presence at their events. Never in my life have I ever implicated anybody in the club for some kind of nefarious activity. David Santillan was the president of the Mongols motorcycle club for nearly 13 years, until he was voted out of the club in July of 2021. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside. Lil Dave is the former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. Theres a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. Mr. Ciccone, who retired last year, testified that Mr. Santillan never served as an informant for the agency, nor did he pass on any defense information during the trial. #MONGOLSMC #MONGOLS #LILDAVEFor more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. He explained: We wanted them to know we were there monitoring.. I've heard out of his mouth personally a couple of years ago that they were trying to avoid any issues with any clubs and trying to stay quiet as not to bring attention to themselves because of the . The group has about 1,200 members in the United States, most of them Hispanic, and numerous chapters around the world. This is the final statement on this because honestly it's mundane and boring. Mr. Santillan provided records from the cases to show he had been convicted of offenses including driving under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident and disturbing the peace, and that he had been arrested, fined and put on probation. There is no way hes gotten away with these incidents without more significant legal repercussions unless someone in law enforcement is in the background greasing the slides for him, Mr. Yanny said. Ruben Cavazos (born December 28, 1956) is an American criminal, and former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club.His autobiography, Honor Few, Fear None: The Life & Times of a Mongol, was published by HarperCollins in 2008. That quest to seize the Mongols patch was part of a criminal case brought by the U.S. Attorneys Office in 2013 under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. The text reads in part: "You guys need to see this video" and that David "has been working with the government is all [sic] entire time" and that's "why he felt so comfortable to do what he does he is simply a CI In other words he is a rat.". (Photo by The Associated Press). He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. After one year he's done and he can't protect me, so we have to have an exit strategy.". The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. A supervisory special agent with the A.T.F. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. "He was afraid, and I think he turned on his loyalty to the club to protect himself. 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As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. Ethan Tate, Meghann M. Cuniff and Lauren Herstik contributed reporting. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. The ultimate implications for society are paramount here, he said. Both Mr. Ciccone and the U.S. Attorneys Office declined to comment on the motion beyond the government response filed in court, which said the petition for a new trial was replete with false and unsupported allegations and speculation.. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader Was an Informant, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. Two years after a federal jury deemed the notorious Mongols Motorcycle Club a criminal organization, attorneys for the club are asking a judge for a new trial accusing its former president of. Get your Signed Copy of Brotherhood & Betrayal( shipping is included to the Lower 48 States only)- Shipping to Canada, Australia and Overseas please contact Chinadoll annredden2003@gmail.com Order Yours Now~! ", RELATED: Racketeering verdict in OC might force Mongols biker club to lose logo. Mongols biker club is denied new racketeering trial after claims its leader was informant Mongols members walk over the 6th Street Viaduct in Los Angeles. "I love you, I love you," David Santillan says in the call. Mongols MC is a one percenter motorcycle club founded in Montebello, California on December 5, 1969. Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC - Insane Throttle Biker News mongols motorcycle club Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC November 11, 2021 Live with Former Mongol MC Int. If MCs want to be seen as a club then stop all the violence, the general public can see through all the BS, as can those who are a part of this scene and want nothing to do with clubs. The Mongols claimed in their motion for a new trial that Mr. Santillan had an inappropriate working relationship over the years with the lead A.T.F. Everyone has their opinion of went down and how everything was covered. Ms. Santillan said that she now felt horrible about disclosing the communications and that her husband was not, in fact, an informant. Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. These registrations are something that need to be examined by the circuit, maybe the Supreme Court.. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. Mr. Santillan holding a photo of himself with fellow Mongols members. Former National Vice President of the T H U G Riders MC MOE CAPO MORALES. agent who infiltrated three biker clubs. It is the First Amendment issues associated with the case that are most important, Judge Carter said on Thursday, and whether the government has the right to seize control of a trademarked emblem as a way of eliminating a groups ability to operate and recruit. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. They are sick and tired of the gangster shit, they want to be bikers and be apart of a scene that was once true to itself (Thus the reason for pop up clubs and lack of respect for protocol and tradition). ", "So, he gave me a heads up and that was it. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html, 00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldnt cover this anymore BUT03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Wheres the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasnt it done all the time15:47 WOW he cant do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy, Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside.