While u neef reservation in jobs nd admissions. Our surnames are same and similar and too common hence why we dispute they belong to me or you. But u will let these flames burn forever. It can be verified by your DNA test. No matter how much the times change theirnthinking will always be shit and low, Sir sanyal nd guru surname belong to which caste. Badpagga. . Kairay gotra ke jathere kahan hai koi bata skta hai kya plzzzz its vry urgent, Ghoter bare jankari wadia ha par tusi OK ghoter bhul gae Bhoondpal ja pal. Punjab National Bank, There are a lot of Majra or a Majara villages in Punjab named after agricultural workers .It was only after Baba Banda Singh Bahadur who destroyed Sirhind that land titles were given to the tillers . kya mujhe shadi krni chahiye ussy kya. Kalson family is very reputed family of haryana every body knows the kalson sir name in haryana, pls add the kalson sir name is to sirname list of kalson. So you should find a girl of your liking irrespective of caste creed region or religion.You are settled in USA but your thinking and mind set is still of remote backward caste infected villager. Castes should become irrelevant in this transition. there is no bad if Jatt people proud of their caste history. India's population speaks a wide variety of languages and nearly every major religion in the world has a following in India. This is not just for their family but for those whom they do not even know. No, we are not. Anyone believing in caste system are simply slaves to Brahmins. We should not follow people, people make mistakes, people discriminate on caste, colour, creed and religion, but we should be better than that. The spelling variants are Shastri and Sastri. () Chopde. And have all of the above names in my family. In India you never marry a person with the same surname no matter how far down the line you may be related even if you are from different caste because the revulsion is too great. Dalit were out caste and never assigned any caste traditionally so in 1947 ,under SC Act new caste Scheduled Caste ( Schedule / Notification of Govt.) the reason is clear ,we have to aware about ourselves and our casts. Rana comes from Sanskrit and means "king.". one more thing lot of CHAMAR community people changing their Surname to hide their caste. ||1|| (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Page 349), In the world hereafter, social status and power mean nothing; hereafter, the soul is new. She has moved on but you are still stuck in the past and harbour toxic sentimentality. you are wrong. Does that make me your sisters husband?. regards, hii Chavar vansh k logo ko garv hona chahiye ki unhone kisi ka sosan atyachar nhi kiya . I hate this caste system. It has the benefit of three power-saving modalities. please new thems to guru ravidas devlop.there is high demand my area. You will only talk about caste and discrimination. ULLU KE PATHE TUJHE JYADA PTA HAI KI BO KAISE RHTE HAI YAA NHI . I know for a fact that chumars make much more of a big deal about all this bollocks than n e other. Manuvadiyo ne hamara sab kuch cheen liya aur hamara khub sosan kiya . Sr No. i hope all chamar should work hard to become no. It really shouldnt matter what caste you belong too. I believe exactly the same- there is no caste. I have much to say on this subject but what amazes me that even after migrating abroad and being educated abroad they have learnt nothing. ANY BODY INVOLVED IN CRIME IF OUSTED THEN Y NOT BHARDWAJ NOT TO OUSTED TO CHANDAL / DOM N SANDLYA /GOTAM /KASHYAP OUSTED TO BE CHAMAR /KOLI / MALLAH WHOSE CHILDREN SHALLCARRY SAME GOTRA . Youre desperate ancestors either got mixed or changed their last names out of shame. kainth, johal, virdi, and jassal are also jatt, not sure about the others. Prove it and remove our last name from the list!!! Geeta rani vill A reputation: has a bad name About 15% of the Chamar were found in Mirpur, where they suffered heavily in 1947 at the start of the Kashmir . Momis are from the Kamboj caste sir, who are known to be jimidaar and agriculturists in Punjab. Bnde di sbto vaddi zaat.. Raghbir Singh, dont let this worry you too much. Jan 1989. Be proud of Sikhi and Guru Granth Sahib Ji. I am merely pointing out the reasons why. We dont have caste system. Wow thats new to me, so you can determine if someones brave or kind by there surname. Bhagat Ravidas Ji gave his bani to Guru Nanak Dev Ji, he never gave it to any pakhandi/false/fake baba. Punjab National Bank, [43] Gujarat's government has made an effort to change their name from 'Chamar' to 'Rohit' and to change the name of their villages and towns from 'Chamarvas' to 'Rohitvas'.[44]. There is no room for brahminvad in Sikhism. Our Sikh Gurus also went against Hinduism and preached the same message as Bhagat Ravidas Ji unity, casteless society, righteousness, rejection of Hindu religion, politics and rituals. Caste system was so deep rooted in Indian psyche that people from so called high class were not ready to sit along side the so called low castes but in langar all were to be treated as equal and every one had to sit in same row(pangat). it is your identity. I love ths comunity. In 40 years i have never heard my huge family(the jatt one) talk about this bullshit. They are basically tanners and leather workers, considered untouchables and thus kept outside the Hindu society. I also belong to you chamar community and not ashamed but respect my Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. Saru says. Chamars work in land measurement are described as Balahi. Promoting your caste. Even Europe had a caste system where Priests, Kings and Knights were at the top and manual workers were at the bottom. Ohhh hattt fudduuu bhanmaroni dea kiu glt bolda sikh jatt bare j jyada e problem a jattan to fr jattan de surname kiu use krde aa saleo soch tuhadi hlle v uthe e aa fuddu people, Chamar bhai ajj ke time main peeche nehi hai bhai baba ambedkar ne likha itihaas koi thakur ya koi bramhan vasya nehi likhne aaya wo chamar hi tha jo lakho par bhari pad gaya dobara mere samaj ko ganda neech mat bolna kyoki main jaanta hu ki jo log jayada ucha dikhate hai wo bade hi ghatiya kisam ke hote hai is liye apni jhuti manuvsdi style ko mat dikhao kameeno, this is nonsense.. all sriptures had made india proud eitherr written by bramhans or any . Chamars arent from any of those bloodlines originally. My stepmother is a maan and she is from Ramghriya tribe. I believe the forward castes who are only 15% of the population should only get proportionate share of power and representation in all public positions. So in a nut shell to you, reservation is wrong and only the jobs should be given on merit alone and thus corruption will be reduced by a threefold. Regards. But with the passage of time it came to be known as a religion. by the LAPTOP input. So when people have same surnames, that means they are related by blood (DNA). people belong to sc and bc classes never hesitate to tell about their castes. Plz add Rao, Soann, Chouhan, Dahiya, Sanpat, Basanpal, Saroya, Bal in the list. Marriage is always between a man and a woman but certainly not between castes.Foolish people search for spouses within a caste region or religion. they gave me really hard time and I was in depression and stress and now they are even sending kids to my home to scar me away. It is the great great grand father of Indian religions. Therefore, a humble appeal is being made to all the respected social people that those who want to cooperate in the said construction work can give according to their ability, along with all the donors must give their photo along with their name and present place of residence so that social Your photo along with name and place of residence can be broadcast in the magazine. Bassan human is free irrespective of any ism . no rest until its done. jatiwal Youre taking what the gurus said way too literally. u people see only sandhu as jatt? Thus Kaul is a brahmin surname and also a chamar name. also y is it that ur entire family gets a reservation. Lets get this right VIRK are not chamar they are Jatt lets fix that up! Surnames are castles of caste prejudice. sir plz add SARANGAL,ANGURALA,MEENIA OR {MAHINIA}, our surname is JHIM origins jathehre pind kathar, jalandhar, jai gurudev ji sir plese our chamar name{ raju} raju sada got hai aur asi boota pind day vasnik ha, jai gurudev ji sir plese our chamar name{ raju} raju sada got hai aur asi boota pind day vasnik ha sade jathre pind bugra kot fatuhi han plese add raju, Jai Guru Dev ji , Sir our gotra is Janagal(ravidasia)and My Mothers gotra is Badhan(Ravidasia), SIR PLs ADD ANGURALA,SARANGAL,MEENIA,JAREWAL,JANGRAL TOO, My Origin Village is KOKOWAAL(adda Chungian) nearbyPost Office Binewal Distt. Which chamar is a sandhu? We all know the lowest of low are Brahmins, in Sikhi anyone who is proud of caste is a fool, prime example of fools are Brahmins, so dont feel bad but make a official claim pliant against this shitty fucked up Brahmin that he is a racist and is discriminating you. Our ancesters used to skin an animal in less than fifteen minutes and now their decedents -US- inherited the skill and capable of skinning nasty people like you within fifteen seconds. Maybe they arent religious and it doesnt matter if they call themselves jat sikh. nice to see this awesome website of our community. There is something known as History(the kind of english you have written I can very well relate how much you would have known your own history, forget ours), read it first before commenting such things. Mother India! Chohan mennu jst ennik gal da answer de deo. Ravidassia should be working to promote the misssion of the Guru not actively engaged in doing the work of brahminism by encouraging the caste surnames. Thus there is no justifiable reason to suspect scheduled caste officer engaging in corrupt practices. sir, many Surnames are still to be added, for example my grandmothers surname is Punia, my mothers surname Tundwal, My aunts surname Gora, My Surname Chhachhiye, My Friends Surname Kheechi, Grover, Lamba, Koundal___ & many more, anybody can you tell me khokhra caste belongs to which caste like they are sc/obc/general, Bcoz I m khokhra so want to know, plz Rpl me, jai Guru Ravidass g may god bless to all .thanks. Take business and economy over 95% of the business, trade, finance and economy is contolled by the Baniya/vaishas. Our Sikh Gurus and Sikh Bhagats gave us respect an identity which is Sikh. It was formerly used as a title by Rajput kings, and later developed into a surname. Garv se kaho ham chambhar hai.. DGP OF PUNJAB POLICE K K ATTRI..is a Chamar, Achha hai reservation hai varna crore logon ko bramhin achhut kah kar bhukh pyas se maar dete. i m chamar i used to yadav surname because of there thousand of people they belongs to chamar .but yadavs are not in chamar . Yes fair enough i accept that by marrying out of caste she is obviously not castist. jo khud kuch nahi kar sakte na unhe hi ye sab dimag main aata hai. Rathi Sale tu kuti de jameya, teri ma de b lun gaya tai tu gandi ulad bahar aai e, or o lun kise insan da ta lagda ni tenu dekh ke, kese gande zanbar da e ho sakda e. Chutiya Jatta Jabab Milya ta deyin.. . These 15% have been ruling and controlling India since independence. This is the reason that even after new religions were adopted by some of them like Sikh , Muslim or Christians caste system was still practiced . Yrr please reply jrur krii mainu ahaa dsss virk sandhu kdo to sc hoo geee ?????? Thats where you getting it wrong. Thank you for the interesting story. [3] Ramnarayan Rawat posits that the association of the Chamar community with a traditional occupation of leather[4] was constructed, and that the Chamars were instead also historically agriculturists and weaver. If you have evidence of being chamar surname / history please reply back to me with your reasons why. Tq. Guru Govind Singh, at the creation of the Khalsa said Jab jay gay biprin ke reet, mein na karon enki pratteet ie that those who wish to come into Khalsa they must reject Brahminism and its practises. Proud to be chamar. The ultimate purpose of Brahminism as Dr Ambedkar puts it is political power ie raj for the Brahmins. either leave sikhism and carry chamarism on head or understand one thing sikhism is anti casteism ideology . He is a typical Jatt sikh, who does not understand that being a jatt Sikh is a contradiction in terms. 3. Jai bhim jai chamar jai chawarvansh jai chamar devta ki, Julaha chamar chure will always be low! Your assertion that corruption has trebled as a result of schedules caste gaining power is not only falacious but rediculous to say the least. The king chastised Vishnu for reciting the Vedas, an act forbidden for a Shudra. SO GOTRA IS IMPORTANT NOT CASTE . Kuch galt Bol diya Ho to os ke liye mari sbhi Jatav bhaiyo se dil se sorry.. I am a bains and a jatt. each and every upper and lower cast should treat equally in every field. These are few I know in MP Ive never had any reason to discuss caste. Not caste. Chamars who have adopted the weaving profession and abandoned tanning and leathercraft, identify themselves as Julaha Chamar. Take land, over 90% of the land in India is controlled by the thakurs, who are also in politics and business. I am an 3D Artist in New Delhi and Belonging to Rohtak, Haryana. Abe salo.badi jaat waletumko kis baat pe ghamand haijaat ko niche girane wale tum hote kon hojaat kaam se nehi naam se jana jata hai samjeunchi jaat waleapni soch badlo.. shame shame. This website is propagating these Ravidassias. max. we are in NJ, USA. chamars are kings of Indiapheron be to iserali jati ko bye gulam bnaye rakhaIndians were slaves of mugula then of Englishmen I am a Sahota myself and I have Sandhu/Kalsi friends who ARE CHAMAR and no other caste! Remember, it is man made. An. Let me address these issues.Kash has not put any evidence to support his or her assertion that threefold corruption was due to scheduled castes gaining reservation post.He/she has not put any evidence to support his/her assertion that posts are being given without any merit. Sawkare. Hotkar.kharatmol.sadafule. Im not religious but I still dont believe in the caste system in the sense that the higher ups should get privileges and reign over the lower caste. According to Wikipedia, there is 1100+ Caste living in India which are divided into 4 Caste Category which is SC, ST OBC & General. if u r not chamar while u r saying that it is proudly thats good dear. I readily accept that my ancestors were poor and vulnerable and i take no shame in it, i am extremely proud and thankful for where they have delivered my family today. so please dont change your surname. Degloorkar. You should be proud to be a member of this community. Uske aage or peeche se free service ke jaygi. Raghbir Singh. plzzz. Sahota is jatt gotra. We should only judge people according to their actions (Karma). sikhism was found without caste discrimination .the why u people are crying we are chamar chamar? pls help me mennu koi jana SOHANG da matlab dasso !!!! sita shunted out of house by raja ramchander , was given shelter by dalit maharishi vamiki who earliar was hunter. Details k liye satnam singh ji ki chamaro ka gauravshali itihas book jarur padhe, .chavar vansh prachin kal me bharat me raj karta tha hamara videsi manuvadi se sangharsh huaa hamane aasani se ghutane nhi teke lekin ant me hamari haar huyi. 10%. This is so true. I am a Sahota myself and I have sidhu and sandhu friends who ARE CHAMAR and no other caste! Thus its better to keep quiet about your caste. In Punjab, they are mainly found in Ludhiana, Patiala, Amritsar and Jalandhar cities. tum videsi aarya ho jo yaha aaker rehne lage rahi bat list me names ki wo sabhi sahi . Its either cause their mixed or more than likely the fact that YOU STOLE OUR LAST NAMES. Mahatma Gandhi, Dr.B.R.Ambedkar, Nelson Mandela but to mention a few achieved change for man kind. Wages were always paid in food, barely enough to survive. You will find among us Sharmas, Banerjees, Singhs . I agree with you but unfortunately the Rajputs are one of the most castist ,racist people in India and the world. They believe that leatherwork is "degrading" when compared to weaving. Kind Regards my name is Gourav Kamal. Basically we r Jatt nd this List is False. Ive met some f#k#d ppl in my life but this twat has topped it, he thinks that surnames belong to jatt only. a chamar woman stole my father from me only for money, position and power. The Pasis worked as lathail or stick wielders for the "Upper Caste" landlords and the later had compelled them in past to unite many a times. For your kind information samne a kar bol. what happened to mike gallagher? I wish you knew how it felt to be a chamar then you would know you Fucking Twat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have repeated that most of the power is distributed among the Bahujan(ie sc, st, obc). But other peoples eyes they just have a huge ego or think think are better then every individual just because they are a higher caste. We are all human beings and there is no caste as such it is just occupation. some fools think themselves superior to others so go for race another name of caste . You spoke my words. Most ancient books were compiled by Ad Dharmis. Hey Ricky, glad you have noticed the lies on this website. This Jatt will be skinned alive in ten seconds, we have the innate skills. You should tell your caste boldly and unapologetically. Orientation. Sandhu yar agree with u, yar apa sikh han and koi chammar ni te koi jatt ni we are only sikh. guys..hum jatav .n hei bharat ko ashok jaisa mahan raja dia..tha or Hindu m voh rk iklota hindu h jisnae purae Asia p raj kia hor gautam buddh plzzz dnt be shame of our caste. ONE brahmin enjoying 4 wives whose children have same gotra how they can marry being brothers n sisters when planty choice is available .that is reason same gotra marrige not allowed . PUTTTT JATTANNNN DE. Waghmare. plz add bajiyan . Dont hear SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI just listen I agree with you 100% and there is nothing wrong with you following your family traditions, I think most people here do. Hmne pta hai ki sbb equal hai. Phone 100 guna we people are doing torchur to all and we claim to be ahimsa wadi people? Virtually all the fighters remaining and their families were taken into the middle east so that they can never rise again in India. There are thousands of surnames and depending which part of India you live, you will get surnames which we have never heard off. Kyo ki hum log gareeb hote hai. Ragbhir Singh you can tell that twat of a Brahmin what us Sikhs think of him. I respect chammars .. Delete this name.. My mother belong from chammar family. I AM BELONG TO CHAMAR AND ALWYAS PROUD OF IT. Satguru Kabir, in the Guru Grant Sahib, the holy book of the Sikhs, said very much similar. a user-friendly menu so that you can truly unveil and love the full black I am one among them, many times i keep mum on the issue of castes. Our parents have taught us well lol. Jai Guru Ravidas. Please Add My Surname in Your Names List Because I Am A Chamar Boy & My Whole Village Surname is Manghra So Dear Plz Add My Surname ( MANGHRA ) in Your List.I AM Very Thankful to You. THERE ARE TWO REGIMENTS NAMED CHAMAR REGIMENT AND MAHAR REGIMENT. This is the truth. My name is Pardeep Gola, in Haryana this surname is common. Baba saheb dr b r ambedkar THE GREATEST INDIAN elected after 65years since 1948 when BAPU was killed by brahmin n r godse. He needs to think very seriously about these concept. But then the truth will overpower you and will see. Wakchaure. I have known a chamar pretending to be a Sandhu.A small conversation and it all came out as expected.Another chamar,very educated due to the reservation system always made friends with Jats or Brahmins.Next thing you know he puts Sharma on the end of his name.He began to believe his own hype until he tried to get married in a hindu mandhir.So the same here.To repeat Johal,Sahota,Sandhu,Virk are all Jat names no question.No shared with anybody else.If Jats are secure in their own identityit does not mean they look down on anybody else.Its not our job to buoy chamars up.Its the Indian govt who trod on you.Its the hindu religion who tarred you.Leave Jats and Sikhism out of your gripe. the person discriminated me is a Brahim and I am lower caste, he abused me for over year and 4 month, I was humilated by him, harrased by him even racialy abused by others due to he was speading false propaganda gainst me. What a joke. Thank god we have no relation to these F##ked up Brahmins. Our Bhagats & Gurus done so much for us and know ravidassias are doing the opposite. Br a good human first. The Chamars are as Indian citizens as you are. . r yours? SC are not Shudra Shudra have been kings like Raja Ranjit Singh and Shivaji . 3. I want every chamar to become a political animal and be inspired and think of raj. Caste system is the root of all evil, especially in India , Johal and Sidhu arent Chamar they are Jatt, This site has very much wrong information, Dabi is not a chamar . Shegokar. Punjab National Bank, INSTEAD OF LYING, YOU WILL SPEAK THE TRUTH. plz add saini also belong to chamarsme also a jatt, chamar nd so many othr castesnd aour surname is saini..o m proud of itadd some others gotra also..garewal my mother gotra,toor my fufd gotra,ahuja my masser gotra..yar we all beleive in sikhism all these marriages are intercaste or u can say educated marriageequallity marriagesadd these surnames yrpta lgeall are same guys gl hai bs uchi sch rkhn di..os rabb nu lekha asi dena 22 gsikhan de vich cast system door kro koi jatt,chamar,kamboj,khatri naije sikh kehlana ta ehna castan de chkr ch niklo . We run Punjab! However, when very low caste sikhs migrated to countries such as the US, Canada and the UK, they thought of it as a chance to start a clean slate where people would not be able to identify their caste. great white shark population graph; clarence gilyard net worth 2020 All they still think of us as lowly creatures born only to work under them. So we should be proud of whichever caste were born in and strive hard to do good for our society and motherland. What does pure chamar means ? PLEASE HELP. SOME OF THE SURNAMES DO NOT BELONG TO YOU CHAMAARS IN THE LIST ABOVE, SO STOP FLATTERING YOURSELVES AND FOOLING THE WORLD. Really I dont understand where people make this shit up from. Please read blogs in this website as to why surnames cut across caste lines. state wise list of castes state uttar pradesh code caste 1 ahir 2 araah 3 badai 4 badbuja 5 bania 6 bhuj 7 bibhas 8 bind 9 blacksmith 10 brahman 11 burji 12 carpenter 13 . Mobile Number 91 + 9407521386 If you so proud why not use your true caste , if you dont have surname just use word Chamar after your name , but you are trying to deceive people . please add sharma..i am sharma and chamar, Hame garv hai ki ham des k chavar vansh se hai, Hame garv hai ki ham des k chavar vansh se hai.chavar vansh prachin kal me bharat me raj karta tha hamara videsi manuvadi se sangharsh huaa hamane aasani se ghutane nhi teke lekin ant me hamari haar huyi. Dont swear makes your look stupid. You are all equal. Would anybody out there would like to lose his or her family and adopt another I dont think so. 2. All jatts are not bad but some have to much ego which is against sikhi. Kataria Parivaar Jathere where village in punjab anybody tell me plzzz. Meet surname is not in the list. rabb ik a .. marke tu v kirtpur jana te chamaara ne v ds hai koi frk . 9954836253. Surnames mean nothing, they dont make you bigger, better, richer, poorer, stronger or weaker, for some people it just satisfies their egos belonging to a certain surname. Ranga Some people of chamar caste have surname RAVIDAS or RABIDAS. yes Sahota is Chamar surname i am sahota as well. police ki naukari mili pura systm barbad . Hi m sonam rajput Ye caste dharm ye Sab kuch in hota sbko brabri ki respect milni chahiye, Sonam gAgr Sabke liye brabri Chahti h..to phle apne naam k aage se ..Rajput to hta liziye. SC - Scheduled Castes. . We having a glourious History of our Great ancestors. All the answers are in their. and we all come together and make a land of peace. Why say you belong to something that shouldnt matter at all. Ohnu banke khadhappe sapp dhangiye.. This jat animal is full of rubbish and he is rubbish, even his name starts with the word kurra akin to kurrah ie rubbish. As desired of rear-projection HDTVs, it contains infinite blacks together with accurate designs, which could be made to be even even more superb utilizing minor tweaking. i m chamar.proud to be chamar.reservation is just for our upliftment..you oppresed us for thousands of years. One is Caste Watch UK: http://www.castewatchuk.org/ I know what you mean because I am a Maratha Sikh and a lot of Sikhs mock me because of my heritage as most Sikhs are ethnically Punjabi. Stop using our last names you ugly fucks. All India Saint Shiromani Ravidas Samaj Vikas Samiti Betul District Betul. Most of the actors and actresses are from the higher castes. Etc.. thnu u produce that shit given to u by shitty govt.. so called SC CERTIFICATE.. Sehgals and duggals are not from chamar community.They are Punjabi Khatri. Brahamania is a chamar name u add this name, satnami koun hote hai plz rply me and surname kosale, plz give me some detail about noori in punjab (hoshiyarpur). Even Guru Nanak Dev Ji said to abolish the caste system! law of science- energy he created to BE born by him or his family . Most ancient religion of India is Adi Dharam. When any one else calls by the name of chamar he is being blamed of passing casteist remarks and booked under atrocities onSC/ST Act which is a non bailable offence .I should say that chamars are more caste conscious and believe in casteism Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhon. chamar is a turning point for the people 'beyond the four castes' who stitch together in a claim for identity . Sorry I forgot to tell you that since the discrimination is taking place at work please also speak to you employer and your Union, in confidence, if you have one and tell them about the problem you are suffering and also get to act under the new law. 4. We all need to transcend caste and imbibe humanism, which is what Guru Ravidass and all later Gurus wanted ie a casteless society.